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The fundamental issue in gun rights and measures to address gun violence is accountability to public authority. Accountability means specifically registration of ownership. Registration is the only mechanism by which gun ownership can be effectively regulated and gun use regulations can be enforced. Accountability to public authority it turns out is the one point of policy the gun lobby's armed populace fantasy cannot accommodate. The gun lobby, led by the National Rifle Association, cannot win the right to be armed outside accountability to public authority in court but not for the want of trying, .../nraperp.html, .../pzpet.html, .../nrareno3.html. It has to cultivate a constituency that is already eager to believe and rally the constituency to defeat legislation. Part of the strategy is the fraudulent and/or severely adulturated quotes. The quotes are usually fragments lifted out of the context of the immediate sentences and paragraphs in which they were written and completely out of the context of time in which they were written. The quotes are mindless repeated not just by internet ranters but delusional academics, and our shallow, lazy organs of public enlightenment starting what the NRA calls the "rabidly antigun" Washington Post.

If the NRA wants to have its very contemporary armed populace fantasy, it can have it, formulate it, believe in it, and lobby for it, but it has no roots in the Second Amendment and the historical consciousness and practices of the militia. The NRA, the rest of the gun lobby and the host of libertarian "scholars" who fabricated the armed populace fantasy cannot therefore wrap itself in the respectability of the Constitution and the Second Amendment. The context of the eighteenth century was completely different. The Second Amendment was about the arrangement of military force in the society. The choices then were between a much distrusted regular army associated with monarchy and usually composed of mercenaries, foreigners and/or social misfits and a republican militia composed of citizen soldiers rooted in their local communities. Just as the Framers of the Constitution distrusted political power and divided power between state and federal government and among three branches within each, they divided military power between the regular army and the militia. One big difference was that militia duty was conscript duty. The regular army was not. The militia clauses in the Constitution created a national militia, under limited authority of the Congress and the president, out of the pre-existing state militias. The Militia Act of 1792 (.../emerappc.html), enacted by the same people who ratified the Second Amendment, required the states to "enroll"— that is, register— militiamen for militia duty. It also required the state militia officers to compile and report to the President, the commander-in-chief of the militia, inventories of the militia resources of the states including privately owned arms. The inventories were called "Return of Militia." The conscript citizen militia, despite the ideological fervor that inspired it, was never a very popular or effective institution. It was completely moribund by the Civil War, replaced by volunteer militias which were under state authority. The two opposing military concepts of the militia and regular army were combined in the twentieth century in the Selective Service Acts starting in 1917. The United States became a national republic with armed forces composed of conscripted citizen soldiers. These issues are raised with the US Court of Appeals, Fifth Circuit, in the Potowmack Institute amicus brief in US v. Emerson.

Strong Federalists like Presidents Washington and Adams had little use for the militia and ignored the inventory requirement, but President Jefferson for ideological reasons wanted to emphasize the militia over the regular army and required the inventories be reported. They were reported from 1802 through the 1820s by which time the conscript militia institution was in an advanced state of decline. The listings under "Arms, Ammunition, and Accoutrements" included: "artillery side arms", "pairs of pistols", "muskets," "sabres," "bayonets," "pounds of power," etc. There was in those days no mention of or discussion about or concern for an individual civil right to be armed outside of accountability to public authority, outside of the knowledge and reach of government, state or federal, outside of the militia inventory, outside of legally authorized or permitted purpose. That is the right that is advanced today.

The lists of quotes from the period of the American Revolution and the Framing of the Constitution promote enormous respectability for the armed populace fantasy for the eager to believe. It is not clear if the people who promote this stuff haven't really been deluded by their own eagerness to believe. See What does the NRA want? and Appendix I to our Emerson amicus. What is as remarkable as the sophistication and persistence of the fabrication of a political ideology out of the false reading of the quotes is the failure of any opposition. No political leader these day who is grandstanding to introduce gun control laws, usually derived from public health models of gun safety, has taken on the political ideology of anarchy and insurrection and made an issue of its fraudulent fabrication. The news media, whose first responsibility is to get the facts straight, have been silent.

The real issue gets down to whether or not gun owners are citizens under law and government or individual sovereigns, laws unto themselves, in the State of Nature which is the state of anarchy: Or, phrased another way: Is the Constitution a frame of government with "just powers" that derive from the "consent of the governed" or a treaty among sovereign individuals who give no more than word of honor and promise of good faith? The Million Mom crusade has surrendered to public health models and has no apparent interest in expanding public consciousness and educating a constituency for law and government. The bankrupt Democratic Party with a few fellow-travelling moderate Republicans would rather lose elections than fulfill a historic mission.

Very prominent among the quotes are certain favorites from
James Madison, Federalist Paper No. 46
John Adams
Alexander Hamilton, Federalist Paper No. 28
Alexander Hamilton, Federalist Paper No. 29
Noah Webster
Tench Coxe
George Mason
Patrick Henry
Fisher Ames
Joseph Story
Senate Judiciary Committee report
Mohandas Gandhi
None of the sources of the quotes from the eighteenth century and the early republic is on record for objecting that the enrollment and inventory requirements of the Militia Act would "infringe" on the individual right to maintain the "armed populace at large." or threaten the capacity of an armed populace to resist the tyrannical encroachments of government.

The lists of quotes, hardly complete here, abound on the Internet. The first list below is mostly from the early republic. Following are more contemporary quotes. The Citizens' Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms has exposed some quotes as fraudulent.

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In Liberty and Freedom
http://www.inlibertyandfreedom.com/foundfathers.htm

Healy Law Offices
http://www.healylaw.com/armquote.htm

Taking on Gun Control
http://home.pacbell.net/dragon13/2ndQuotes.html

Intentions of the Founding Fathers
http://www.largo.org/meaning2.html

The Founders on the Second Amendment
http://www.cmlc.org/cmlc/2amend.htm

Quotations from the Founding Fathers and Other Notable Personalities
http://www.io.com/~velte/quotes.htm

Pikes Peak Firearms Coalition
http://ppfc.org/quotes.htm

Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms
http://www.ccrkba.org/Quotes.html

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Phoney Quotes

The Citizens' Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms has exposed some of the quotes as being fraudulent and/or adulturated. It is only an attempt at responsibility. The Citizens' Committee has not entertained the possibility that none of the quotes support the claim of a right to be armed outside of the knowledge and reach of government in order to maintain a balance of power between a privately armed populace and any all government.

Bogus, Fake & Questionalbe Quotes Falsely Attributed to the Founding Fathers [George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison]
http://www.ccrkba.org/pub/rkba/general/BogusFounderQuotes.htm


The Citizens' Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms has exposed other more contemporary quotes as being fraudulent.

Bogus, Fake & Questionable Quotes Falsely Attributed to the Anti-Gunners [Adolph Hitler, Sarah Brady, Janet Reno].
http://www.ccrkba.org/pub/rkba/general/BogusAntiGunQuotes.htm


What they really said

James Madison

Federalist Paper No. 46

The most ubiquitous quote is from James Madison's Federalist Paper No. 46: "...the advantage of being armed which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation."

Here is how these words are quoted in the NRA Member Guide, insert in the American Rifleman, March, 1991:

The words are quoted in about half of the 32 "progun"/"pro-individual right" law journals articles listed in Wayne LaPierre's Guns, Crime, and Freedom (1994). They are usually cited out of context and to mean something very different what they mean in context. Madison was not describing the civil rights of private individuals. Madison knew that militia duty was conscript duty. He expressed no reservation about the enrollment and inventory requirements of the Militia Act of 1792, enacted a few years later, which was in force when he was president and which he was under oath to faithfully execute.

The full context of what Madison really said is provided in Appendix I in the Potowmack Institute amicus curiae brief in US v. Emerson.


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John Adams

John Adams is frequently quoted as having written:

In context the words would be accurately rendered if cited as:

Fuller context is provided in Potowmack Institute amicus curiae brief in US v. Emerson. Adams was quite forceful that the militia was under the laws and not some anarchic self-appointed institution.

The words can be used as the situation requires. See Stephen Halbrook's sham scholarship with these words in Appendix I in the Potowmack Institute amicus curiae brief in US v. Emerson. Halbrook has submitted briefs to the Supreme Court and other federal courts and argued before the Supreme Court.


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Alexander Hamilton

Federalist Paper No. 28

Alexander Hamilton is quoted as writing:

This is a favorite quote.  The words are lifted out of John Locke, The Second Treatise of Government, § 168.  Here is the full context:

Locke's right paramount to the laws of men was an "appeal to Heaven" not a civil right of private individuals secured by government.

Federalist Paper No. 29

Alexander Hamilton is quoted as writing, "The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed" from Federalist Paper No. 29. The full context of the words are provided in Appendix I of the Potowmack Institute amicus.. In context Hamilton was advocating a select militia, anathma to gun rights advocates. It was Hamilton's ill-conceived whiskey tax when he was Secretary of the Treasury that provoke the Whiskey Rebellion in 1794. Hamilton supported the suppression of the militiamen who took up arms against federal authority in the Whiskey Rebellion.


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Noah Webster

A favorite quote from Noah Webster's very influential pamphlet, "An Examination into the Leading Principles of the federal Constitution" (1787) is:

The full context is provided. Noah Webster understood that for the people to be disarmed meant that the conscript militia had to be untrained, unregulated, unofficered or even disbanded leaving the regular army as the military force. This is very different from the civil rights of private individuals. Webster was a strong federalist. There is no record that he objected to the enrollment and inventory requirements of the Militia Act.

Webster's thoughts on government are found in his earlier pamphlet, "Sketches on American Policy" (1785) which was influential in the period leading up to the Constitutional Convention in 1787. His arguments which are derived from John Locke's The Second Treatise of Government follow similar reasoning to the Potowmack Institute amicus in Emerson.

Another favorite Webster quote is from his 1828 dictionary for "bear". Webster used the example "to bear arms in a coat." The coat here was a coat of arms not a garment.
See:
.../noahweb.html for full text from the dictionary.
Also,
.../garwills.html#webster.
.../emertjf.html#webster.


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Tench Coxe

A favorite Tench Coxe quote:

The right was in the context of the citizen soldier of the conscript militia. In the eithteenth century private arms were never strictly private. The public had a claim for public purposes. Coxe was a strong Federalist. He was employed in Hamilton's Treasury Department during the Whiskey Rebellion. He expressed no concerns that the enrollment and inventory requirements of the Militia Act would infringe on right of the people to keep and bear their private arms.

This quote is one subject of discussion in Jack Rakove's
"The Second Amendment: The Highest Stage of Originalism,"


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Patrick Henry

The favorite quote from Patrick Henry is "That every man be armed". Stephen Halbrook used these words for the title of his 1984 book which some people cite as ground breaking scholarship. The full text of Henry's quote is provided in Appendix I to the Potowmack Institute (Md.) amicus curiae brief in US v. Emerson.

George Mason

George Mason is quoted: "I ask, sir, who are the militia?"
These words are quoted in the
District Court opinion in US v. Emerson, p. 10..
We address them in our Appendix I of our Emerson amicus brief.

Another rendition is quoted by the NRA's demagogic flunky Attorney General John Ashcroft in his letter to the NRA, May 17, 2001, conveniently timed for demagagic purposes to coincide with the NRA's convention, "I ask. Who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers ... To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them." The same rendition is quoted by the editor of the NRA's publication, America's 1st Freedom, Mark Chesnut, in his article "Justice in Flames," February, 2003. The sham is so parallel and so brazen that we can legitimately wonder is the NRA wrote Ashcroft's letter for him except maybe Ashcroft's footnote about "compelling state interest" and "peaceable citizens." It is a good guess that the NRA's lead intellectual charlatan Stephen Halbrook wrote Chesnut's article and Ashcroft's letter. The NRA, Chesnut, Halbrook, and Ashcroft share the same anti-state, anti-government, anti-rule of law political cynicism. They do not have to worry that they will receive any challenges from what the NRA calls the "rabidly antigun" Washington Post, CBS News' "Sixty Minutes", or NPR's Diane Rehm.

Mason, of course, did say these words in the Virginia ratification debates. In the first part of the quote, Mason was concerned that the militia would degenerate from a universal militia obligation through conscription into a more selective force as groups and classes sought exemption for themselves. The give away is "except a few public officers". Those were the ones exempted from conscription. Under the militia system exemptions were generously provided. Men with money could buy themselves out of their obligation or pay a substitute.

The second half of the sentence, which is fraudulently conflated with the first half, expressed a different concern. The two halves came from the Virginia ratification debates. The first half was on June 16, 1788. The second half was two day before on June 14. These are separated by 45 pages in Elliot's Debates, vol. 3 and two days:

The first half of the quotation:
Elliot's Debates, Vol. 3, Page 425


The second half of the quote from two days before:
Page 380


The militia in these passages were the state military institutions which maintained a military balance against the perceived dangers of a regular army, modeled after the British Army, at the disposal of the Federal Government. It was not an anarchic, self-constituted collection of privately armed individuals which today would have to include the NRA's "armed citizen guerrillas". The Ninth Circuit's Judge Reinhardt addressed the difference between the militia as a military organization and the militia as just a collection of privately armed individuals in Silveira v. Lockyer.

The Federal Goverment's regular army did not become a feared instrument of political intrique. The conscript militia of citizen soldiers died out as an institution in the early Republic because it served no political purpose as a balance against the regular army. The concept of the citizen soldier universally conscripted into public duty was resurrected in the twentienth century Selective Service Acts which combined what were in the early Republic the opposing, antagonistic concepts of the citizen conscript militia and the voluntarily enlisted professional regular army. The exemptions under the Selective Service Acts were much more stingy and much more strictly enforced.

If the NRA's "libertarian republicans" oppose universal conscription they should take the matter up with the libertarian republicans over at the Libertarain Party Platform.


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Fisher Ames

On page 76 of That Every Man Be Armed the NRA's leading pseudoscholar Stephen Halbrook writes:

Jack Rakove addresses Ames' comment on Madison's bill of rights in footnote 12 of "The Highest Stage of Originalism" in the Chicago-Kent symposium.

The fuller text of the quote is from a letter to Thomas Dwight, June 11, 1789:

From Works of Fisher Ames as published by Seth Ames, W. B. Allen edition (1983), p. 641-2.

The right "of changing the government at pleasure" is interesting. The words are not in the Bill of Rights. The issue was addressed as a constitutional issue in the Dorr Rebellion in the 1840s

Fisher Ames' thoughts on the matter were previously expressed in his reaction to and comments on Shays' Rebellion in seven essays published between October, 1786 and March, 1787. The repudiation of Halbrook's anarchic purposes is quite severe.


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Joseph Story

The favorite quote from Supreme Court Justice (1811-1845) Joseph Story is that gun ownership is the "palladium of the liberties of a republic." In context Story was describing the conscript militia as the palladium of the liberties of a republic not the civil rights of private individuals. The full context is provide in Appendix I of the Potowmack Institute amicus curiae brief in Emerson. There are also passages on what Story thought about treason as a constitutional issue.

Story was adamantly and vigorously opposed to the actions of the Dorr Rebels in Rhode Island in the 1840s. He did not live to participate in Luther v. Borden (1849).
Dorr Rebellion


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Senate Judiciary Committee

The Constitution & Firearms

When Republicans gained control of the Senate in the 1980 election one of the orders of business was to produce a gun lobby tract that could be referred to as an impartial study under the imprimatur of the Senate Judiciary Committee as if Strom Thurman and Orrin Hatch ever did anything impartial in their careers and as if congressional committees decide the contours of civil liberites. The report is cited with great effect by gun lobby promoters. It is never mentioned that the report was written by gun lobby advocates Stephen Halbrook and David Hardy. Mary Jolly the Judiciary Committee staff director who assembled the documents left the Judiciary Committee immediately to take employment as an NRA lobbyist. She took the whole first print run with her. The report tells us:

The full text of the report can be found at:
http://www.constitution.org/mil/rkba1982.htm


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Mohandas Gandhi

A quote advanced to support the armed populace fantasy is from Mohandas Gandhi, the leader of nonviolent resistance to British rule in India. His objective of Indedepence was achieved in 1947. Gandhi wrote in Chapter XXVII, "The Recruiting Campaign," in his autobiography, My Experiments with Truth:

"Arms" in this context were military arms not the personal weapons of private individuals. The context of "depriving of the whole nation of arms" was the refusal of the British to conscript Indians into the British Army during the First World War. Gandhi was an extreme anti-militarist. The statement is odd coming out of him, but he used the circumstance for political purposes to advance the cause of Home Rule and Independence.

The full chapter is provided at http://www.potowmack.org/gandhi.html.


The quote list is very long. This is only the beginning. The Potowmack Institute will provide more sources and context as they are developed.


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